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takin a walk music is like a magic thing I think to do that it might I may be talking about you know how some people like we’ll just take a drug over and over because they’re certain at any day now it’s gonna they’re gonna not need it anymore because it’s they saw it you know I guess I like keep hoping to get it whatever it is to get with it I want to get with weather.

I’m Buzz Knight, your host for the “Takin a Walk” podcast, a podcast where I talk to musicians about the inside stories of their creative process, their latest projects, and stories of the road.

Today my guest is a true artist and a troubadour at heart, Todd Snider Todd has an amazing career as a singer -songwriter whose music spans folk,

rock, blues, also with a little bit of Alt Country and Funk. He’s currently going on a retrospective journey spanning three decades, unveiling his complete discography,

included with new recollections, all for free for his fans. Talking to Todd Snider right now on “Takina Walk.” Todd Snider

thanks for being on “Takin a Walk.” It’s an honor to be with you. Yeah, thank you for having me. So, you’re unveiling your complete discography and its acoustic glory recorded at the Purple Building in each release features these re -recorded versions and personal reflections.

And it’s F -R -E -E3. Tell me what motivated you to do this for your loyal die -hard fans. Mostly,

I think that I wanted, I was like, I guess, legacy is that the word? Like, when I’m gone, I wanted to make sure that those were someplace people could hear them. Like,

to me, they’re my favorite versions of the songs, even though it’s like, because I can do what I do on these records.

I got to learn music, play around with different kinds of music, go through fads, mostly because I could stand up by myself and tell people how come I made up a song and play it.

And then record companies would be like, “Why don’t you want to have a drummer or you can?” I didn’t have to, I just wanted to. I wanted to learn music. But like I said, just naturally, I feel like I came out of my mom doing that thing where I liked that these were by myself and I make up the song and I explain it and then I play it.

I can get fed that way. – And really it’s been enjoyment first that has been your motivation and then everything else coming second. – Yeah.

I mostly wanted to drop out of when I was young. My plan was to be like one of the dead hit. Like there’s a group of kids at that time that were just dropping out and being bums.

And then I found guitar and busking and then that turned into a way of life I found Ramlin Jack Elliott. It feels like if you’re honest if you make up honest songs You can pretty much bullshit the rest of the time Don’t tell me what inspired you first to make music and when that was so you said literally out of the womb you said Yeah,

I think but really my I left home when I was 15 and became, my friend said I was in Gypsy and then I saw Jerry Jeff Walker playing and I felt like I was his son.

I felt like I was living what he was singing about. He was playing by himself and singing linear songs and I just thought that’s what I’m supposed to do.

I felt like the way I was living my life at the time, If I had a guitar where I could make up songs about whoever was giving me a ride or letting me stay or Whatever, I just thought I would be a way better traveler or whatever You know,

then I got bit by the notion of wanting to make an album. I just got Keith Sykes Who told me he sounds good. He is really good friends with John.

He writes with John and guy My dad found his address at a bar, someone at the bar had his address. He helped me and got me a record deal and showed me that if I got a record deal,

I could go around the world. Do you remember the first song you wrote and what it was about? I do. I wrote a song called “Bust Tub Stew” and I was a bus boy because again,

I had just seen this Jerry Jeff. I was like, “It’s got just things about his life.” And so I made up a song. I was a bus busboy, it’s a place called Peppers at the Falls, and they made a song about how if people didn’t finish their meal,

I would eat it, you know? And when I got up on the stage and played it, and everyone loved it, like, I think I’m supposed to be doing this. That cemented it.

Yeah. Then I made up a couple more, went to open my eggs, and I made it up, and then I just made up like 14 total and started playing. By the way,

I started playing when I was 19. I only had one job before I was a busboy. Was that your plan B, being a busboy? That’s part of why I felt like I didn’t have anything to fall back on or anything to blow or my parents weren’t going to be ashamed or anything else.

It was going to be a busboy, so why not pour your heart out for a living. It’s kind of a neat, it’s a easy grip. Just you say how you feel, don’t bullshit about it,

and sing a pleasant chorus, and you get a ride and you know, or you know, you end up in the bus. Tell me about,

I mean, we could do just a whole podcast, just on the impact of Jerry Jeff on you and John Prine on you, but tell me how special they were to know them.

They were close friends, and when I saw Jerry Jeff, I went to the record store in San Marcos and started getting all the records and the guy there,

so you have to try John Prine too. Then I went and got all his things, obsessed on him, saw him in Austin, And then he was friends with Keith Sykes.

And so I went down there and I was studying under Keith. He’d just taken me in. I found out later that this is what we do. Some troubadour knocks on my door after that man. So when John made the missing years,

I was getting cigarettes and everything for everybody. And I knew all his songs. I could beat him in a trivia contest >> He must have loved that.

>> Hey, we were close, although it was more father -son. I never got jocular with him. I was always really respectful. Like, we weren’t punching the shoulder buddies.

He would not be hard on me sometimes, but he would also tell me that he loved me. >> Who was harder on you, Jerry Jeff or John? >> Jerry Jeff. I had one time I gave,

I think 13 songs that I just written to John. And he said, “Man, you got a great — that’s a great song you got in there.” And that was kind of the worst. But once he said that,

that opened the door for him to show me what he meant by that. And I got to study songs under him. He got the — but Jerry Jeth and I bonded on music and Oscar rap scaliation after the show -up type.

And so sometimes we’d get into argument. If we couldn’t find someone else to argue with, we’d argue with each other. I stole his car. I mean, we had some shit. One time,

me and him were arguing. He drove right past his gig and we ended up in a different town. I mean, he’s the freest person I know. Or he was, you know? We liked each other But we didn’t have,

we neither of us were watched. – Neither of you what, I’m sorry? – Like, more watched or shared about being someplace some other second time. (laughing) – How many fist fights did you get into with Jerry Jeff?

– None, none. Just yelling a few times. I like, blew one of my own shows. He really gave it, Shade or Hit Shaver hit me. Shaver hit me. Yeah. He had stacked all these bills on the kitchen table on me.

We didn’t know we’d messed them up, but he walked in and just right with his bald up face straight in my mouth. Then he hit any tooth. You can’t make this up,

huh? I miss him. He was also a wild person. – Billy Joe Shaver. – Yeah, adventurous person.

Shot, I don’t know, it’s tough. – Loss is such a terrible part of life and obviously with John’s loss and Jerry Jeff’s loss and then most recently the loss of another friend who I know you spoke with all the time,

Richard Lewis, tell me what Richard meant to you. – I was closer to Richard really than any of them. ‘Cause he and I mostly stay to ourselves and we get on and off the phone multiple times.

We talk a lot every day and then I knew who was getting, I mean, he didn’t die of what he was aged, he had a heart attack, but he was tired from fighting. He’s had a really bad couple of years with his health.

Like I’ve called him about everything. And that’s kind of the last guy, you know, the last mentor, I think. I’m 57, so it’s my turn to ask.

There’s this kid named Josh Morningstar. It’s really good. It just wrote me this morning, you know, some he’s going through some, some issues and stuff and he called me and I guess it’s my turn to listen.

And how did you first meet Richard? He wrote me a letter on the computer just out of the blue. It was, oh, I know what it was, too.

He had a group of, this is adorable, and this is him, too. His wife, Joyce, and him, well, she still means a lot to me, but he had a group of about four guys he talked to every day all the time,

and like two of them died, and he’s really neurotic. He couldn’t deal with that. He had He had his four people, his wife said, “You have to replace them.” He sat around thinking about it,

and he wrote me a letter, and I was like, “Literally, like, I kind of look for someone to talk to every day. I had this little group.” My wife said, “I should replace the guys that were in it.” He knew all my albums and stuff,

and I knew everything about him, and I have this story I tell about and mushrooms and I got home from the tour and he had left it on my machine like he told it on my machine and um that was the biggest compliment but he uh he liked who I’ve talked to about the rules and stuff anything anything yeah yeah like I had this lady I had a lady break into my house and like he’s he has that kind of stuff all of them

just the oddities of life right – Yeah, yeah. – Tell me about your songwriting process. How it works, how do you turn an idea into a finished song?

– Oh, okay. I’m enjoying this, thank you. – Me too. – When I started, it was like this healing thing, like I was, I think it was angry at like my parents that were going through divorce and I sang about it.

And it’s like mantra most of course, usually repeating something, it’s like good. So I learned to use it as a tool, like that, to get move passings,

and then, so if it felt like it helped, I thought it was done. And then it became this thing I could use at work, like, then there’s another thing, like, which ones go to work, which ones show up from work.

And those are, like, I’d like to know if a song is going to move other people. It’s hard. I try not to play songs that I don’t think other people relate to because I make up some that I know are too singular or whatever.

But let’s see. There’s some that it takes a long time and then one day that’s a good question. It takes a while and then it feels like at some point I know that it’s done.

I wonder how other people do. There’s this guy named Kent Finley who showed me how to do it, like meter and everything. Trying to say exactly what you’re trying to say and be concise about it and turn as already as you take the poetry out and ask yourself why you’re really saying this and you know You know,

make sure it has either a rock. That there’s something in it that, for me, it’s like, even D .B. Cooper, it’s just a story about the guy that jumped out of a plane that I don’t know,

but there’s a part in there where I talk about how my dad and I disagree on what we hope happens to him. And for me, that’s the rock I put my foot on when I sing that song.

And if I don’t have something like that in there. Why am I telling people about DB Cooper? It doesn’t move me until I get to the part where I realized me and my father starting to see things differently.

And that’s what DB Cooper is. So I always wanted to be something like that in there, somewhere. Or if there’s not, it feels like a year after I start playing it,

it feels heavy, feels like it goes on for a very long time. I’ve got songs that are about girls I don’t really know that like on my first or second album, I got a couple of rep songs.

There’s a song called “Turn It Up.” It’s made it up out of thin air. I don’t know who those people are or what they’re talking about. There’s some words I said because I had a riff and that song feels like it goes on for hours on my fire.

But you eventually tire of some of your songs, don’t you? Uh -huh. Most of them. Yeah. Some of them. Yeah. Why are you so tough on yourself in that regard that you tire of them and kind of just aggravated them?

Yeah. Let’s see. I don’t think that might just be … Yeah. I don’t know. I wish I could stop there. Because some Although I got, these are my kids, and I’m like my kids,

some of them, really, but in fact, this thing that’s coming out, that’s out, I think, for, there’s songs where I’ll play and I’ll talk about why I don’t like it, and then I’ll play, which I was glad to get the chance to go on record like that.

It gets it off your chest, right? Yeah. There was a song called “Positively Negative.” That’s just this thing I felt for about 10 minutes, just long enough to get the song, you know. And then by the time the song came out,

I wasn’t mad about that. – But you blend so brilliantly social commentary and humor. How do you sort of balance that or do you?

– Thank you. I think that try to like when Paula, I don’t feel like anyone knows like when it comes to politics. The The reason why we argue about these things,

because we don’t know for sure what to do. There’s like two really basic people, not like it’s science, there’s like a certain person who’s sort of moving forward,

or things tomorrow is going to be great. There’s another person that thinks yesterday was great, and we get separated on that. And so for Democrats, they market,

we have the people, I’m really called bourgeois or whatever. And then there’s people that think, “Yes, there was some debate in general.” And they get, “I think it’s like you, I don’t even know if it’s your choice which are those sides you lean on or whatever.” So like politics,

I don’t take that seriously. It’s like a form of entertainment or a racket. Like it’s a low -brow form of entertainment and It doesn’t pay as much as it should for as much as their lives as they have to give to this act or whatever.

I feel sad for them because they’re punching bag. The politician is like anyone, and we can all say politicians are bullshit lying pieces of shit. That’s the way to stop an argument.

They’re all pieces of shit, and it’s just a racket. So I don’t take it seriously I look at them all like they’re wrestlers and I hope their kids get that they’re pro wrestlers sometimes they fix potholes every once in a while or sometimes they tuck things up but don’t really do a ton up there saying Washington and so when I sing about it I don’t feel like I don’t get angry about it like Trump doesn’t make me

angry. I think it’s amusing. I’m a Democrat, so I don’t want him to be the president. I didn’t like it when he was before, but just because of him. Because I think tomorrow is going to be terrific.

And they got me. I love Bob Dylan, my hippie woods. It smells like hippie. I’m just loud. And I can admit it. I don’t even care, you know, half the time if it’s a protest and there’s a good band,

you don’t have to tell me. I’m coming. The tip of the shit. But you are the unofficial mayor of East Nashville. So if you were handed the keys to making decisions as a political leader,

what would your motto be? Oh, that’s the whole tap for our side. I love what’s happened on the east side side of town. I feel like, because that’s like Billy String,

Sierra Feral, I think Jelly Roll will even live over on our side of town now. Let’s see, because it feels like those cats on the mainstream people,

they’re, they don’t know, I mean, I’m just watching as a fan, I’m not part of it. I think maybe I’ll get a song cut sometimes, but it feels like that’s the thing on 16th Avenue where they have this system that’s worked for over forever and ever and ever,

it got rattled by a few guys that didn’t go through it, I think. And then they’re huge. It’s like, broadly, I don’t know, but I think some of the big stars don’t have any friends on 16th Avenue and that,

so they’re kind of, I think they’re kind of calling time out and trying to, I think they’re like studying Jason Isabel for a minute. And I’m not sure where country music is going to go,

but right now it seems like that cat Jason Aldean who said something racist, I guess, or something that offended hippies, and then so did this other kid.

There’s another kid who offended hippies, and they’re the only people making it happen right now. I think 16th Avenue has it was caught up in whatever’s going on in America.

You know what I mean? They’re gonna have to get themselves out of politics, I think, because I don’t think they meant to get there. Yeah, Morgan, Morgan Wallen, maybe you were talking about,

yeah. Yeah, that kid, that kid, he fucked up, I think he threw something, something out here, or, but yeah, I know he said he did something racist. I don’t know what it was or if he I mean,

but Like the rallying around that kid like that as if they’re rallying around those cats as if they shot a protester Like they’re standing up for him.

You know, I mean, it’s like, you know redneck people who don’t like people that don’t look Like themselves and to the point that they’re angry about it.

They wanted the fans. They’re like, they’re coming to the rescue of these two guys and the rest of the town’s getting kind of artsy. We’ll be right back with the “Taken a Walk” podcast.

Welcome back to the “Taken a Walk” podcast. What do you think Jerry Jeff would have thought about what’s going on these days? Oh, gosh. I think he would have liked what was going on with music,

but I don’t know. Well, it would really depend on if he was drinking or not, because if he was drinking, whatever is causing chaos, it doesn’t matter if it’s positive or negative. It’s hard to understand what’s head for.

So he’d like all the chaos, even though some of it has been, of course a lot of it’s been violating, but man, he had a way of letting go of everything in a way that didn’t make you think that he was ignoring people’s troubles.

You know, sometimes it’s like, “Oh, you’re on for a second.” He was a gifted at freeing his mind in the last follow -up. Yeah. Did your father impact your storytelling,

unbelievable abilities? Was he one of the greatest influences in that regard? I think so. The first time I saw Jerry Jeff, I thought that’s my dad,

except for my dad was a grifter for real. So I remember saying he’s not hurting anymore. And I remember thinking, yeah, my dad would have been a good troubadour. He was a criminal,

but like a very successful one. He died when he was only 54. Before he was part of, was this guy named George Deversay in Oregon, he brought heroin to the Great Northwest in like the early ’60s and set up his team in Beaverton,

Oregon, and that’s what my dad was, my dad worked for him, and it was a little soprano, like without the way of sounding, it didn’t sound like that.

But there was always a couple of guys standing around. People don’t believe me, but so that’s my, it’s true. Oh, I believe you. Yeah. What do you think is the most significant milestone to date in your career?

Right after that, when you said that, I thought I went on the tour right before or after, I think if I’m before the pandemic with Brandon Jack,

Elliot, and spent like two weeks on the bus with him. And I felt like that confirmed a lot. I mean, I felt like I learned a lot. I felt like I confirmed a lot about what we’re doing. And he was always,

like would always put me to bed. He was always ready to get off the bus and would do something. He’s 92. And he was really into traveling. And so we would go find cars and buses and boats and things to look at during the day.

It’s just really active. I’m just seeing somebody who jumped in head first to this lifestyle being so, still so glad that he did,

still so free, still so amused and interested, and that it made me think that like there’s a fourth quarter left. There’s a little bit left, you know.

Tell me what Towns Van Zandt is meant to you. When I met the first time I saw him was on Keith Sykes took me to a Christmas party at a bar.

He was a whole holding family and I didn’t know what that meant and when we went into the back to we went in the kitchen and when we walk in the back kitchen of this bar,

it’s Guy Clark and Townsend and John Prine and Nancy Griffith and they’re playing the game where you throw dice on the wall and they have money in their hands and they’re shouting, you know,

and I’d never met, I only knew John. And then at a certain point, guys, I mean, towns came and sat down next to me and grabbed my arm and I could tell he was starting to cry.

And he said, I said, “What’s the matter?” And he said, “This is all fucked up.” And I said, “What’s all fucked up?” And then they all roared and laughed at it. And he was like, “This is all fucked up.” I never knew what he meant,

but it hurt me for him. And then after they all went to John’s and traded songs, I was the only other person there. I’ve just got a record thing,

but I didn’t play any songs. And then after that, Guy in Townsville really nice to me. They call me Keith Thoris Sykes as a kid. And the only taking in now,

I get it, and you know, you have to, I was the first person to tell me that like the people that came after me were going to make me jealous. And if only for being younger and that you just can’t,

you can’t be that, you can’t do that. You have to go the other way. You have to give everything you have to everybody that’s doing this. And it works. It really is a, It’s not a lot of people that just want to be a troubadour,

and not very many at all. Those guys really looked at that we’re just good to each other, they weren’t priceless. Don’t you think there’s people who pose as troubadours and then there’s people who really are troubadours?

I think so, probably so. You could sniff them, I bet you could sniff them a mile away though. Usually, sometimes I feel like I can, first time I met Isabel,

and the first time I saw Sierra Farrell, I knew, and I, yeah, there is a, it’s a calling or something. It definitely doesn’t feel like a thing that you can plan.

I didn’t, I didn’t have a goal, you know, and then I was living like this first and then it was like look at these guys they live the same way with every guitar seems like they get an extra extra scoop at everything you know what’s the biggest challenge in your career that you faced or that you faced to this day right now I feel like in the last couple years I haven’t I’m played because it’s been what they call

like a It sounds darker than this, but they call it a dark light, there’s a soul where I’m like not sure how much I’m going to be able to play again, I haven’t played in a couple of,

almost a couple of years, and I’m trying to get healthy, you know, I’m not off drugs, I’m not on drugs, if I, if I was on drugs,

I could go play, but I I live like that and it’s gotten, I’m in a lot of pain all the time. Not today though, and I’m going to the chiropractor after this,

and there’s this guy that is, I think it’s starting to help me. I want to play game, but that, so that part of it, like trying to figure out who I’d be if I wasn’t that,

I’m not so far from up And, um, and then I think meeting heroes and not because of, um, not because,

or because they turn out to be jerks, just it’s intimidating. It’s like being around, like it was intimidating to be around John, Jimmy Buffett, those people. But Buffett in particular was somebody like,

I really wanted to be a friend to him, but and he needed friends, but they, you’d have to be a genius. You were going to have to be one of those guys, Steve Jobs and those were his friends,

people that were running on. I mean, I’ve been around that. I mean, now I’m bad about him, but that guy knew a lot of languages for Star Wars. He was a master surfer,

master fisherman, master golfer, pilot, and not like the rest. He wasn’t like people. That was, he was hard, but like, not hard to be around, but you felt like, you know,

I wasn’t slapping him on the back or telling him jokes. I was just like, damn, you’re gonna fly now? Okay. And he kept, you know,

having this zest for his performance and connecting with his fans and, you know, kind of keeping that fire always burning, right? I think of him as the door that I believed he had.

And he learned it from Jerry Jeff. We learned it from him on Jeff. And Jerry Jeff took him to Q West even. And he was a say, he could parallel park a pirate ship.

And I’m not, I’m not kidding. He can catch, say. So he went down there and found more than music. Yeah, he found a wave lock. He created Jimmy Buffett and nothing on the thin air and then got to be in the whole time.

– Miss him dearly, I’m sure. – I’m crazy. I’m still really close to his niece and that has been a really hard one. ‘Cause he is like, there was a, like for me in particular,

like he just said, you can be a singer. Now with me, I’m talking to you ’cause he decided one day to let me. And he’s doing that 20 times a year ever since the song came out,

yeah. Just like you can have this, you can have that, always. – Are you happy how you have evolved as a musician and a troubadour? – Thank you for asking me that.

I’m really happy with the guitar playing and the harmonica playing that makes me, I feel like I’ve really come a long way on those things. And then troubadour,

I feel like I got through a no hitter. And then I’ve been like, that took my first, like this is the first break I’ve ever taken of. I went, I ran away at 15, went on the road at about 27 and never stopped.

And I feel like, I know that Ramlin Jack is proud of that lifestyle. There’s a camp where I’m supposed,

I’m teach like I teach it which is a grip in itself, but there’s a camp in Woodstock where last year I did it was supposed to be a songwriting camp and this year It’s a free wheel and troubadour camp,

but I’m like there’s way more to it than just making up songs You got to learn to sleep anywhere or you’ve got to learn how to jump in the car just because it goes open all that shit I love that.

I want to ask you about some of your favorite venues and then some of your least favorite venues. Right, Greg, that is fun. Let’s see. I can do that.

Let’s see, Green Hall, because I saw Jerry Jet there and I was like, this is what I am. And then there’s a place called Alice’s Champagne Palace in Homer,

Alaska, that it’s like that town, if somebody was looking for a travel tip, that’s the kind of town you can go and meet everyone there and become,

you know, everyone there, come back. It’s not like that community. I feel like I’m part of it. And then Santa Cruz, they used to have these fat fries outside, and that town too,

the radio station in that town, there’s a community around that that’s fun to go fall into, just see what they’re doing tonight. And then let’s say, I was going to say,

oh, the last one would be QS because I first time I went down there was with Jimmy. So I’ve got that play styled in pretty good. And it is the Troubadour. In the 90s,

when I went down there, there was like music on all the streets up and down the wall. But now, if you go up and down the wall, it’s one guy telling stories and singing his own songs and people are paying attention to the gun.

It’s like there’s a buffet. There’s somebody doing my shit. There’s 12 gigs to do what I do every night on one street. So if you’re into that too, if you’re into like bullcrastinate and songwriting types,

There’s a shit ton in QS, and they’re working at lots of gigs, and so I’ve been down there for a while and I know those guys Do you have any hobbies other than being a troubadour and a musician?

I’m a good gardener flower gardener And I’m a walker like I think it’s I walk a few times a day and garden I like to meditate,

which is what it means to just sit in there. That’s about it. That’s my thing, I think. What advice would you give to aspiring musicians that are listening to this podcast?

I will go into it if you’re… See some people go into it to succeed, and other people go into it to escape the part of the world that is focused on success.

You can go try to be a star, or you can be Vince Herman, which is like– he’s just like a kind of been allowed to– I don’t know if you know what I’m talking about.

He’s left over salmon. And he’s a bonafide, what do you call it, when people figure out their ego and and shaking, he used his time on the wrist to do that and got away with it by playing mandolin and singing,

not making big fuss, you know. So it’s like, I went into it because I felt like I had already was basically tuned in to have dropped out of it.

So it’s like, if you want to have kids or be responsible or don’t do it, don’t Don’t try to get you’re not going to succeed in a way that you’re gonna send your kid to private school or what?

And if you do like Remember Jack said music is good for like a horse or a truck and the rest is grab ass And if you know that you might end up with your own ranch acts at that We might end up like Jimmy Buffett.

That’s enough. But if you think you’re gonna end up like Jimmy Buffett, you’re just gonna be a drunk. You got it. Like, when I started being a singer,

it was because I knew that I was never gonna have any money. I was never gonna do anything like that. I was never gonna have to sit down and meet with anyone or anything like that.

That was the payoff. And then, like, he sikes. It was like, you can go to Europe if you just get your shit together for six months. That’s what I told Sierra. Todd,

in closing, what have you not learned about life or being a musician that you’re still in search of? That thing Vinny did,

and I do think I’m getting closer. I would like to run out of things to say and shake my personality completely, even know it’s pretty warm in like heat and then I don’t want to in the last few years I was like they didn’t really talk anymore and he only really just laughed and made funny sounds and stuff and I could see that happening in the beginning and I’m trying to get right in line behind me I would like

that I would like to go be like go completely mad. I guess is what some might say or just get rid of, shake my name,

you know, get back to before you take on this. I think, I don’t know, sounds just some hippie shit, but music, I think someday they’re going to figure out frequencies and like the end,

like music is like a magic thing, I think can do that. I may be talking about you know how some people like will just take a drug over and over because they’re certain at any day now it’s gonna they’re gonna not need it anymore because it’s they saw it you know I guess I like keep hoping to get it whatever it is you know whatever it is to get with it I want to get with it thanks for getting with it with me

man thank you man I so enjoyed this – Thank you, man, I did too. – Thanks for being on. – Right on, man. – I can’t wait to hear it. – Yeah, I’ll keep you posted.

Thanks for everything, seriously. – Thanks, bro. – Good luck at the dock, too. Thanks for listening to this “Takin a Walk” episode with Todd Snider A quick shout out, a thanks to one of our Ohio friends and supporters of “Takin a Walk” Buck McWilliams.

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Buzz Knight

Buzz Knight is an established media executive with a long history of content creation and multi-platform distribution.

After a successful career as a Radio Executive, he formed Buzz Knight Media which focuses on strategic guidance and the development of new original content.