Podcast Transcript

Speaker 1:

Taking a walk.

Bebe Buell:

I have the energy of 12 wild bulls and I think I got that from Mick. I exercise the same way he does. I put myself into a big empty room with a mirror and I just move. And I go crazy. And I lock it in, I lock it out, I go up, I go down, I go round, I go round.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Takin’ A Walk podcast, music history on foot. Join your host Buzz Knight for a walk and talk near Nashville, Tennessee with American singer, model, and New York Times best-selling author Bebe Buell. Bebe has been around so much music history and you’ll just love the conversation as it happens next on Takin’ A Walk with Buzz Knight.

Buzz Knight:

It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood.

Bebe Buell:

Yes. It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood. I know, doesn’t it feel like that?

Buzz Knight:

It does, Bebe Buell.

Bebe Buell:

We have to keep it a secret where I live, but it is magical. We can say that much.

Buzz Knight:

We’re in a magical spot somewhere.

Bebe Buell:

We’re in a Nashville suburb.

Buzz Knight:

Somewhere near Nashville.

Bebe Buell:

Yes. Very close to Nashville.

Buzz Knight:

Yes. And I’m so glad that we got to take a walk in person. I can’t tell you how excited-

Bebe Buell:

We just walked past somebody that plays with Reba McIntyre.

Buzz Knight:

Oh, there you go.

Bebe Buell:

You’re going to see a lot of country people and a lot of rock stars in this neighborhood but that’s all right.

Buzz Knight:

Well, thank you for taking a walk. I’m so grateful.

Bebe Buell:

Yes. I’m happy to be taking a walk with you finally.

Buzz Knight:

Yeah, we had a date on the books at one time, kind of, and I think you were playing in your band at that point.

Bebe Buell:

Yeah.

Buzz Knight:

And got a little raucous, I think, right?

Bebe Buell:

Actually, when I saw all the wonderful cool people you’ve interviewed, I’m like, “I better get my butt on that podcast because it’s awful cool.”

Buzz Knight:

Well, so let’s talk about some of those folks because they intersected in your world. First of all, this wonderful photographer named Bob Gruen was on the Taking a Walk podcast.

Bebe Buell:

Yes. Well, Bob Gruen was one of the first people I met in New York City. When I was first dating Todd, he had just gotten this brand-new Lamé gold suit from Granny Takes a Trip that he wanted Bob to photograph him in. It sort of looked like an Elvis Presley kind of suit except tailored tighter. And he brought me along and Bob ended up taking the first picture ever taken of he and I that was published. It was a picture of me on the floor hanging onto his leg. Gosh, and I wasn’t dressed up or I didn’t have any makeup on, but the pictures are pretty awesome. They’re all over the internet, if you ever wanted to see it.

Buzz Knight:

Was that in the West Village?

Bebe Buell:

Yes. Because I lived in New York City. I would see Bob Gruen everywhere, he was a part of the fiber. He was New York City as far as I was concerned, and he knew everybody, and everybody knew him and loved him. He was one of those guys, he could kind of be invisible. He wasn’t in the way ever. And that’s why everybody always let him come backstage, and he was always a part of everybody because he had, as my mother would say, “He had perfect etiquette.” Yeah.

Buzz Knight:

Yeah. I could feel that about him, just the time spending. And as we were walking in that West Village area there, he’d walk by people and somebody, “Hey, Bobby.”

Bebe Buell:

Oh, yeah.

Buzz Knight:

I mean, he knows everybody

Bebe Buell:

Well, yeah, he’s only lived there for 50 years. I mean, my God, he’s been in the same place since I met him, and-

Buzz Knight:

He took me by that first place that he ended up running into, I guess John and Yoko when they lived there. That little spot, which by the way, I don’t know if you’ve seen it lately, it doesn’t look like anything special, that place in the West Fourth area where John and Yoko lived. It’s kind of dilapidated.

Bebe Buell:

I wonder what that is. Oh, boy. There’s something going on in there.

Buzz Knight:

Yeah.

Bebe Buell:

I wonder who it is.

Buzz Knight:

So we had Bob on, and then there’s another gentleman I think you probably crossed paths with. We walked in the Village as well.

Bebe Buell:

Who?

Buzz Knight:

Danny Fields.

Bebe Buell:

Oh my God, are you kidding?

Buzz Knight:

Yeah.

Bebe Buell:

Danny Fields gave me, I think probably the most ultimate quote anybody has ever given to a publication about me for the New York Times. I don’t know if you read that New York Times story on-

Buzz Knight:

When you had gone back for the promotion of your book. I did.

Bebe Buell:

When I played the National Arts Club.

Buzz Knight:

Yep.

Bebe Buell:

Well, Danny, you can go back and read it. He said something that just, I was so touched. Yeah, Danny was also one of the first people I met when I came to New York. But it’s funny because the first time I met Danny was just at Max’s, just casually. And then when I met him again, Todd was looking to trip on something. He wanted to try tripping, and we were sort of told that Danny had the best stuff and that he had the real stuff, the Timothy Leary kind of stuff. And Todd’s like, “No, no, no. I don’t want to take acid. I want to take psilocybin or something like that.” And so I went over there and I got it, and we did that trip. Whew, that was something, that was the day too, that Todd found that artist on Fifth Avenue. We literally walked all the way from the village to the park.

Buzz Knight:

Oh, really?

Bebe Buell:

That’s how high we were. But in a joyous, wonderful way, it was just so much fun. And there was this gallery, and Todd was like, “Oh my God, look at these paintings. They were so surrealistic.” So we wandered in and got to know the artist, and he ended up doing A Wizard, a True Star the cover.

Buzz Knight:

Oh, wow.

Bebe Buell:

So that crazy cover that shows him face, and if you look at it another way, the side view as well, it plays an optical illusion with your eyes.

Buzz Knight:

Oh, God. Yeah.

Bebe Buell:

So it’s awesome. So yeah, I miss New York, because it’s not the New York I loved anymore.

Buzz Knight:

So then there’s one more person that we had-

Bebe Buell:

You want to sit down for a minute?

Buzz Knight:

Sure. That we had on the podcast who I know you know and he’s terrific and it’s Richard Barone.

Bebe Buell:

Oh, well, of course, I adore him.

Buzz Knight:

Yeah. What a special guy.

Bebe Buell:

What I love about Richard is he’s extremely positive, upbeat. He just doesn’t let the chips get him down. He keeps on trucking, keeps on staying out there,

Buzz Knight:

And he’s such a student of what’s going on around obviously the music scene. I love his book that he wrote, and obviously he’s trying to pass it on to students.

Bebe Buell:

Well yeah, he is very, very devoted as is Bob, to staying in that community and keeping it intact. Whereas I get the bug, I get itchy. I need to try other things. I need to experience other scenes. And that was one of the things I loved about Nashville back when I first came here in 2012. It was so exciting. It reminded me of New York City, that same energy and vibrance and bands and everybody hanging out together and country people and rock people mixing. And I can’t stand Kid Rock though, but we don’t have to talk about him.

Buzz Knight:

That’s cool.

Bebe Buell:

I know people think about Kid Rock when they think about rock people in Nashville, but trust me, he’s not our favorite rock guy by any stretch of the imagination. We’ve got Peter Frampton, we’ve got all kinds of amazing rock stars in Nashville, and they aren’t Kid Rock. I’m sorry, dear Lord. But I don’t like to ever feel that way about a person, but he’s just a little too extreme for me.

Buzz Knight:

So paint the picture of what a typical night at Max’s Kansas City was when you were hanging around there.

Bebe Buell:

Well, if you were a model like I was, if you had to get your work done, you would work and get done around four or five, go home and sleep, then you get up around 10 and get ready. And you didn’t get to Max’s until 11 or 12, and then you would stay there until four, five in the morning, then rush home, get a few hours of sleep, do it all over again. It was just every night. And of course, there were those nights where when you’re young, you need more sleep. And I would sometimes just not be able to function the next day because I’d be so tired. But yeah, a typical night at Max’s was you get there, it depended on who you were sitting with or what the vibe was, what you could eat. Because Mickey was very, very generous and all of us could eat whatever we wanted. And Alice Cooper always picked up the check.

Buzz Knight:

He did?

Bebe Buell:

Yeah. He was so sweet. He would just buy everybody dinner and drinks all the time. And I think he was one of the first people I ever met that had a credit card, and I think he was one of the first people that they issued one to in his business anyway. Because credit cards weren’t common until later in the 70s. I remember several rock stars when they got their first credit cards. I was there when I Costello got his first credit card, but that was in England. And I remember he propped it up against his records and sat on the couch and just looked at it. And he said, “Baby, look, I’ve got a credit card.” I said, “Congratulations.” I said, “That means you’re doing well enough that the banks think that you should have one of these things.”

Buzz Knight:

You’ve arrived.

Bebe Buell:

Yeah. So it’s funny how things have changed. Hi there. We also didn’t have answering machines and cell phones, and when you wanted to get through to somebody, you had to write them a letter. And if you were super fancy, like a Jimmy Page or somebody like that, you’d send a telegram. Get a telegram.

Buzz Knight:

Yeah. Did you ever get a telegram from him?

Bebe Buell:

Oh, of course. I’ve gotten several telegrams in my life and I’ve sent a few. And that was sort of like the sexiest way, you knew somebody really liked you if they sent you a telegram. But I remember too when we first got our first answering machines, and they basically would just be a cassette that you put into this machine and well, I’ve saved every single cassette. You wouldn’t believe some of the messages I have.

Buzz Knight:

Oh my God. Now, have you mastered them so they can still exist?

Bebe Buell:

No, actually they’re still in their cassette form, but they’re in my temperature-controlled room.

Buzz Knight:

So they’re in good shape.

Bebe Buell:

Oh, yeah. I mean, I’m not sure if I would ever invade the privacy of some of the people who’s… But I’ve got messages from Jagger, I’ve got messages from everybody and David Bowie. All my modeling agents. “Bebe, you’re late. Get to Reno.” I’ve got all that. And my mother, “Bebe, did you do Playboy?” But this was later because in seventy-four, when I did Playboy, we didn’t have answering machines. But later I did another little picture for them and when my mother heard about it and she called me up. So I’ve got all that, but you really had to be creative when you were courting somebody in those days. So you really knew somebody like you if they did a telegram or they sent flowers or they would send a car for you to come. “I want you to come to my show, I’ll send a car.” And it would be a limousine. It wouldn’t be just a car, it would be a limo.

Buzz Knight:

Did anybody ever send a plane for you?

Bebe Buell:

Yes, I have had a plane sent for me.

Buzz Knight:

Probably more than once?

Bebe Buell:

Twice.

Buzz Knight:

Twice.

Bebe Buell:

Only twice. Only twice. But yes, I have had that pleasure.

Buzz Knight:

Can you reveal who that was?

Bebe Buell:

Well, Jagger once invited me out to Montauk and I took a small plane that he arranged from Teterboro, and that was a thrill. And I thought for sure somebody else would be on the plane, but I was the only one. And so that was exciting. And then when I got there, it was so funny. We were really good friends. We sort of dated, our relationship was strange, but he was seeing a married woman over the hill. I’m not going to say who, because they would sneak off. And so when I got there, I wasn’t really there as his date or his girl. I had my own little cottage because Andy had all these little separate little guest houses all on the property. And what’s his name arrived. Oh, he was so sweet. I loved him. He was a keyboard. Billy Preston.

Billy arrived and he was next to me, and it was just the rehearsals. So I was the only person there with Billy Preston as the other guest. And the Stones would rehearse in the big front room and Andy’s estate in Montauk. And the other person that sent me a plane was Stephen. And yeah, Stephen had his own plane. Mick used to charter them, but Stephen always had his own planes. These boys, I’ll tell you.

Buzz Knight:

I’m telling you.

Bebe Buell:

Silly things, right?

Speaker 1:

We’ll be right back with more of the Take a Walk podcast. Welcome back to the Take a Walk podcast.

Buzz Knight:

So you have this unique trait that you’ve found a way in your life to make everybody feel comfortable and just get a great vibe from you because of who you are. Who taught you that?

Bebe Buell:

Well, I’m not sure you can be taught that, but I was taught etiquette and manners and cordiality from my mother and my grandparents. It’s just a tradition in my family, politeness education. When I was young, if Jagger would invite me to some extravagant dinner, or Brian Ferry or somebody invited me to a dinner where I knew there was going to be royalty or politicians, I would really study up on what was going on in the world so that I would know what I was talking about when I was spoken to, I was prepared. I understood what the assassination of Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King meant, whereas a lot of people my age didn’t even care. So I understood the Vietnam War because my stepfather went to Vietnam.

I understood living on military bases because my stepfather was in the military, as was my father. But I think it becomes, for me about karma. You reap what you sow. I just believe that. You have to treat people the way you would want to be treated. And even people I don’t like, instead of being mean to them or shunning them, I just tell them directly that I don’t care for them. And I don’t say it in a mean way, or I just say it’s best we just stay away from each other, we don’t click. I think that it keeps whatever karmic bond you might have left over from a previous lifetime, you can tear up that contract. I believe that. I believe you can get away from certain situations because you know how I feel. I don’t believe that this is our only life. I believe I’ve been here many times. Oh my Lord.

Buzz Knight:

What gives you the most joy now in your life?

Bebe Buell:

The most joy? I think it’s a combination of things. I can’t pick one thing, but I think it’s a joy being able to live like I live. I’ve earned this. I’ve worked my whole life for this. As my husband, who I’ve been with for twenty-four years. My daughter is very successful. I think the joy I get from watching the productivity and the success of people I love, and especially my daughter. But most joy I get from animals and from cooking food, having people in my home, cooking for them. Joy, I get it just from joy. Surprising me every day brings me joy.

Buzz Knight:

It’s something you didn’t expect to-

Bebe Buell:

Yeah. Yeah. I enjoy reading. I enjoy my Instagram page. I love what it’s done for my ability to reach my fans because I’m an eclectic taste. I’m a cult figure more than I am a household name and Instagram has helped me reach more people. And I’ve noticed it in the last couple of shows I’ve played, they’re sold out, they’re packed. And I think that I owe that to social media. I think so.

Buzz Knight:

But you know there’s a double edge to that sometimes in terms of-

Bebe Buell:

Oh yeah. But I keep away from that element.

Buzz Knight:

You balance it.

Bebe Buell:

I don’t spend a lot of time on Facebook where people get into those disgusting arguments. And as far as Twitter goes, I’ve still got the account, but he took away my blue check as he did everybody that didn’t want to pay him. I just replaced it with a little blue heart and a few people followed suit. I keep that page because of some of my fans that are there, but I really don’t dip into, I don’t chat. I don’t do any of that.

Buzz Knight:

So a lot of music has brought you joy through your life and continues to bring you joy.

Bebe Buell:

Well, it’s the Rolling Stones for me, forever and ever and ever. That’s the band that will always make me the happiest. If I need my mood elevated, it’s the Rolling Stones. If I need melancholy, it’s the Rolling Stones. If I need to feel peppy, it’s the Rolling Stones. I’m just a Rolling Stones girl. And Mick Jagger, I remember seeing a picture of him the first time when I’m nine, 10. So I look at the Stones and the Beatles. They’re part of my life. So if I had been born at any other time in history, I wouldn’t be connected to these people. So I think I chose when I was going to be born, and I think I knew when I was very young who my friends were going to be. I think I’ve been a patron of the arts in every life that I’ve lived, but I’ve also been an artist. So I’ve been a patron and I’ve been an artist, I’ve been both, and I think that they hold hands.

Buzz Knight:

Yeah, that’s beautifully put. It really is. Let’s saunter a little bit more.

Bebe Buell:

Sure.

Buzz Knight:

Yeah. People listen to the podcast sometimes and they go, well, it sounded like when you were walking that, they say it to me, you were breathing heavily. Because we’re walking. So we are walking.

Bebe Buell:

Yeah.

Buzz Knight:

Right?

Bebe Buell:

Well, we’ll try not to breathe heavily.

Buzz Knight:

I didn’t mean it that way.

Bebe Buell:

Well, no, even though you’re supposed to supposed to be… You’re supposed to go, when you walk. I’m not going to say the name of it, but see that farm? Yes. That’s where you go to get your pumpkins and all your fun stuff.

Buzz Knight:

So back to the Stones, do you remember the first time you saw them perform live?

Bebe Buell:

Yeah, on Ed Sullivan.

Buzz Knight:

Well I mean concert-wise.

Bebe Buell:

Oh, when I was 12.

Buzz Knight:

Oh, really?

Bebe Buell:

Going on 13. It was July 4th, 1966, I turned 13, 10 days later. It was at the Allen B. Shepherd Convention Center, or the Dome, as they used to call it, in Virginia Beach.

Buzz Knight:

Oh, wow.

Bebe Buell:

With my best friend, Joany Gross. We met in the fifth grade, and we bonded over the Rolling Stones and the Beatles. And so I was home from boarding school that summer. I did sixth, seventh, and eighth grade at Villa Maria Academy in Lynchburg, Virginia. So that summer that I turned 13 was the summer that changed my life, but I saw them way before that on TV, and I had every record, of course.

Buzz Knight:

And when you see a concert like that, and it’s so-

Bebe Buell:

Okay, howdy.

Buzz Knight:

When you see a concert like that, that changes you-

Bebe Buell:

It alters your DNA, basically.

Buzz Knight:

Right.

Bebe Buell:

Or it ignites whatever your DNA was that was connected to it in the first place.

Buzz Knight:

Right, right. So you were hooked then. You were hooked before, but you were really hooked after that first show.

Bebe Buell:

Oh, yeah. Well, I think that I’ve been connected to music and art in every lifetime I’ve ever lived. So all it did for me was confirm who I was, and I started to have glimpses into who I was, my spirit, my soul, why I’m here, etc. Rock and roll, music. I don’t just love rock and roll. I love everything. I love classical music. I love Indian music. I love Eskimo music. I love all music. There isn’t a genre that hasn’t got something that appeals to me.

Buzz Knight:

What is it about music? Why does it do this to us? How does this happen in your view?

Bebe Buell:

Well, I think it’s-

Buzz Knight:

It’s supernatural for sure.

Bebe Buell:

It’s all vibrations. I think that we all live on frequencies, and I think that everything is at frequency, including the earth spinning. The earth is a living being, as we all know. And I just believe that everything has life and frequency, and I think music is probably throughout the entire universe. Wherever there’s other life, I’m sure music exists in some form. I just think that music is part of the vibrational connection, that the human element… Because we’re only human for a short period of time, and then our spirit either comes back again or continues upward into the realm. Gosh, I know this isn’t it. I know that this isn’t the end. I just wish they didn’t wipe your memory between lifetimes. Because you go back, you do all this work, and you do all this studying on the other side, you learn so much, and then you choose to come back to work on stuff again.

And then as soon as you get here, you are drawn to certain people because of your karmic contract and connection to them. But it’s just incredibly mysterious to me how you know that somebody is connected to you. When you meet them, you know immediately.

Buzz Knight:

Right away.

Bebe Buell:

I know that person. Or you can feel comfortable with somebody. Like, I’m just meeting you right now, but I feel comfortable with you. Who knows, maybe two lifetimes ago we had dinner together or we were at the same gathering, or you were doing this job then. Who knows?

Buzz Knight:

Who knows, that’s right.

Bebe Buell:

Not holding a phone.

Buzz Knight:

Right, right. Thank God I wasn’t then.

Bebe Buell:

Well, but I’m just saying that-

Buzz Knight:

I agree. I agree with everything you said and how it all comes back to vibration and what you feel.

Bebe Buell:

It’s all just energy. I’m a big Dolores Cannon person. She is a spiritualist and a hypnotist. She died in 2014. I was lucky enough to meet her-

Buzz Knight:

Oh, wow.

Bebe Buell:

… and be regressed by her. I grew up in Virginia Beach too, which was Edgar Cayce territory. I could ride my bike to the Edgar Cayce Center and we used to be so infatuated with the place because people would talk about past lives. And that started with me when I was 6, 7, 8 years old. That stuff made perfect sense to me. That’s why my next book that I’m writing is about animal reincarnation.

Buzz Knight:

Oh, right.

Bebe Buell:

Because I believe that we have connections to our pets that are much deeper and more profound than we give credit for. I feel like I still have so much to learn in this life. I would like to be here for at least another 25 years. I’d like to make it as far as my parents, I don’t want to make a quick exit. But when you get to be 70, you start to realize, “Wow,” you don’t think about so much what you’ve done. You think about, “Oh my God, I’ve only got this much time left, or that much time,” who knows?

Buzz Knight:

Who were some of the mentors that have been important to you?

Bebe Buell:

Oh, well, it started with Oscar Wilde, Lily Langtree, Albert Einstein. I was obsessed with him. His hair. I thought it was the best. And Edgar Allan Poe. This was childhood stuff. And then as I’ve gotten older, Patty Smith, Debbie Harry, of course, Mick and Keith, my God, they’re like the monk and the Friar to me. I love, love, love Dolores Cannon, the woman we’re talking about. Gosh, Stephen Greer, he’s another person I want to meet. He’s a ufologist. And I think what happens is you stop thinking about people as mentors, and you start thinking about them as kindred spirits.

Buzz Knight:

Well, so Rick Derringer was a kindred spirit, right?

Bebe Buell:

Of course. But I haven’t seen Rick in 1000 years, and his wife, his first wife, not his current Liz-

Buzz Knight:

Liz?

Bebe Buell:

… is still one of my best friends.

Buzz Knight:

Yeah, you were with her in New York when you did your-

Bebe Buell:

Yeah. We’ve been friends since 1972. But Rick Derringer, he lives a whole different life now. I think he still plays, but I think he found Christianity, got married and lives that life. I think he still plays live.

Buzz Knight:

I think so too.

Bebe Buell:

Oh yeah. All those people. Everybody I know is a kindred spirit, I feel.

Buzz Knight:

So what bands or artists do you think are underappreciated?

Bebe Buell:

Well, that’s a question I could have answered differently maybe 10 or 15 or 20 years ago. But with social media, I have found that most bands that I like eventually do get attention. I love Starcrawler. I love The Struts. There’s a lot of exciting energy and those bands all did well. And I love Lawrence Rothman and who’s become quite the producer du Jour here in Tennessee now.

Buzz Knight:

He worked with Amanda Shires, right?

Bebe Buell:

Yes, with Amanda and Jason and Margo Price. And so it’s funny because I knew him when he was in Living Things when he was a singer in a band and this transformation that he’s gone through. Well, I think he likes to be called they, so I probably shouldn’t say he. This transformation that they have gone through. I appreciate that. If people wish to be not identified by a certain gender, I’m fine with that. He’s got a beautiful wife. He’s got a beautiful daughter. He’s got some beautiful dogs. But Lawrence is quite a special talent, and he spends a lot of time in Nashville now.

Buzz Knight:

And how do you discover music these days? Just through friend recommendations or your own discovery?

Bebe Buell:

Just from being present. If I get invited to something, I try to go. But also from playing my own shows, usually the band, they’ll get to open for me or the kids I meet that come to the shows. The thing about my following that’s so interesting is that they’re very young, and I don’t think that they’ve really put it together yet that I’m 70. I don’t think they’ve connected that. But I am not 70 when I hit stage. I have the energy of 12 wild bulls, and I think I got that from Mick. He inspires me to keep those exercises, those movements going. I exercise the same way he does. I put myself into a big empty room with a mirror and I just move. And I go crazy. And I lock it in, I lock it out, I go up, I go down, I go round, I go round. Some people, “Oh, do you do Pilate?” “No, I do rock. I just get in there and do…”

I’m sure he does light weights as well. You can tell by the way he’s built that he doesn’t do extreme weight lifting. He just does the sensible weights, stretching. He’s got the yoga body that we all envy. But he’s always been like that, Mick though. He’s always been smart about taking care of himself, but he’s never been traditional about it, ever. He’s invented his way to exercise. The Jagger Jog, I call it. It’s like, okay, that’s my exercise, I do the Jagger Jog.

Buzz Knight:

There you go.

Bebe Buell:

I guess the Keith kick.

Buzz Knight:

The Keith kick. So you mentioned earlier about learning. So what is it that you haven’t learned that you would like to learn?

Bebe Buell:

Patience. And I would like to be less judgmental as far as myself goes. I’m very hard on myself. I’m harder on myself than I am on others. So what I’d like to learn is how I can take everything I’ve learned spiritually, take it with me when I leave this realm. And if I come back again, I would like some possible way to have a memory. But I think your memory starts to come back as you live. I think they wipe you clean when you’re the baby, then you come here and I think it’s up to you to figure it out. I guess what I want to learn is why.

Buzz Knight:

I’m so grateful that we got to take this time. And I’m most grateful of it in that we sort of found each other, discovered each other organically, really, nobody put this together.

Bebe Buell:

As soon as I saw your eyes, I knew you were a Pleiadean. I think I’m from the Pleiades Star cluster. I definitely do. And when I meet people, I can sort of see, “Oh, you’re from the Pleiades.” The Seven Sisters. I think there’s seven planets within the Pleiades and I think that they’re all connected. And I think a lot of the people on earth are part of that star cluster. And I think we come back, if Dolores Cannon is right, this is the learning planet. There is no other planet like Earth in the entire universe. There might be other planets with life, but we are the only one that has hell and heaven and everything in one place.

And a lot of souls that come here can’t cope. I think some of them were in the 27 Club. They come here and they’ve never seen hatred and violence in their other previous incarnations. And you come to Earth and you get a real eye-opening because one minute you can be sitting in a field like it’s paradise. And then the next minute you’re looking into the face of war. And I think that that is why Earth is such a challenging place. Dolores Cannon says, “Those of us that choose to come to Earth are brave. And we are looked at from other people in the universe that are connected as very brave to come here and take on this challenge.” And if I have to come back again, I will. I just hope by the time I come back that we have stopped killing cows and pigs and just have a more sophisticated palette. We don’t have to kill so much. A lot of killing going on on this planet. Too much killing. We kill too much. Kill everything, including the forest, and it’s got to stop.

Buzz Knight:

Agree. Thank you for being on Takin’ A Walk.

Bebe Buell:

Oh, you’re welcome. Let’s do it again. I love it.

Buzz Knight:

We did it. We did it.

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About The Author

Buzz Knight

Buzz Knight is an established media executive with a long history of content creation and multi-platform distribution.

After a successful career as a Radio Executive, he formed Buzz Knight Media which focuses on strategic guidance and the development of new original content.